Comments on: My Web2.0 http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/ A rather geeky/technical weblog by Bram(us) Van Damme Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:46:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bramus! http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-169 Bramus! Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:56:24 +0000 http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-169 Check out slide 12 of <a href="http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2007/03/how_to_bluff_your_way_in_web_20/" title="" rel="nofollow">the more than awesome "How to bluff your way into Web 2.0"-presentation</a> Andy Budd and Jeremy Keith presented on SXSW 2007. Too lazy to download the huge pdf and flip to page 12? Then <a href="http://www.viddler.com/explore/centernetworks/videos/19/37.25/" title="" rel="nofollow">you can watch a small movie instead</a> ;) Check out slide 12 of the more than awesome “How to bluff your way into Web 2.0″-presentation Andy Budd and Jeremy Keith presented on SXSW 2007.

Too lazy to download the huge pdf and flip to page 12? Then you can watch a small movie instead ;)

]]> By: pascal http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-168 pascal Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:39:46 +0000 http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-168 it's a hype! But there are some good things about it. it’s a hype! But there are some good things about it.

]]> By: Bramus! http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-167 Bramus! Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:43:38 +0000 http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-167 Joeri, I don't think it's a bubble at all. The techniques used in a Web 2.0 site (intensive DOM manipulation, xhtml validity, css techniques, etc) sure are inventive and do bring extra advantages. A <a href="http://www.webdesignfromscratch.com/current-style.cfm#simple-layout" title="" rel="nofollow">refreshing approach to the grahpical aspect</a> also is in place. Both of them already have proven that they work, thus not being a bubble at all. By combining the techniques and graphical aspect, <a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html#mememap" title="" rel="nofollow">the characteristics of web 2.0</a> (Tagging, RUX, participation, etc.) can be achieved. Of course you have those claiming that they're Web 2.0, although they have it wrong. Example here - in my point of view - is youtube. Okay they have user driven content and support tags, but that does not make them Web 2.0 in my eyes (<a href="http://joi.ito.com/archives/2006/10/22/is_youtube_web_20.html" title="Is youtube web 2.0?" rel="nofollow">and I'm not the only one</a>). Anywho, back to the "state of mind" thing: Imagine that I have a menu I can set the sortorder. The <em>old</em> way would let it sort by adding lots of up and down images and then doing some posts. Moving an item from position ten to one would call for nine clicks. The <em>new</em> way would be by creating a list which one can manipulate by using a <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/pattern.php?pattern=dragdropmodules" title="" rel="nofollow">drag and drop design pattern</a>, greatly improving the user experience (only 1 click needed). (<a href="http://www.bram.us/2006/06/19/my-web-and-beyond/" title="" rel="nofollow">more on user experience here</a> - scroll down to just after the pic where everybody is raising their hands) >> It's all about the attitude (state of mind): yes I could do it the <em>old</em> way, but the <em>new</em> way just is better. B! Joeri, I don’t think it’s a bubble at all.

The techniques used in a Web 2.0 site (intensive DOM manipulation, xhtml validity, css techniques, etc) sure are inventive and do bring extra advantages. A refreshing approach to the grahpical aspect also is in place.

Both of them already have proven that they work, thus not being a bubble at all. By combining the techniques and graphical aspect, the characteristics of web 2.0 (Tagging, RUX, participation, etc.) can be achieved.

Of course you have those claiming that they’re Web 2.0, although they have it wrong. Example here – in my point of view – is youtube. Okay they have user driven content and support tags, but that does not make them Web 2.0 in my eyes (and I’m not the only one).

Anywho, back to the “state of mind” thing: Imagine that I have a menu I can set the sortorder. The old way would let it sort by adding lots of up and down images and then doing some posts. Moving an item from position ten to one would call for nine clicks.
The new way would be by creating a list which one can manipulate by using a drag and drop design pattern, greatly improving the user experience (only 1 click needed).
(more on user experience here – scroll down to just after the pic where everybody is raising their hands)

>> It’s all about the attitude (state of mind): yes I could do it the old way, but the new way just is better.

B!

]]> By: Joeri http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-166 Joeri Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:44:24 +0000 http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-166 - "It's a bubble and you'll realize sooner or later " How does that sound...? - “It’s a bubble and you’ll realize sooner or later ”

How does that sound…?

]]> By: goOve! http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-165 goOve! Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:18:00 +0000 http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-165 Word! Word!

]]> By: Kevin http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-164 Kevin Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:16:57 +0000 http://www.bram.us/2006/12/07/my-web20/#comment-164 That's probably the best definition I've seen. My take: "it's undefined, and that's the heart of it". That’s probably the best definition I’ve seen. My take: “it’s undefined, and that’s the heart of it”.

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